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Last updated: 3/23/11 12:10PM PST - Added links and PayPal emails. Following is a list of usernames on different websites claiming they were scammed by the EGS CEO. The number in the bracket is their feedback on the site. The source is thread with the evidence. Artemys (106) claiming $1078.95 USD Source: This thread astralflow (83) claiming $711 USD Source: eGaming Supply Middleman Astralflow resigns! - Virtual FAQs - Buy and Sell FFXI Accounts, FFXI Gil joewlyn (50) claiming $200 USD Source: EGS , a reputable member but scammed my $200 Nichemasterflex (260) claiming $150 USD Source: EGS , a reputable member but scammed my $200 bassline (34) Claiming $508.80 USD Note: bassline decided to use all the FFXI account info accumulated from Middlemaning accounts to blackmail Monarch to pay him. He threatened to submit all the info to Square Enix if Monarch did not comply. No one reported any bans from this incident. Source: Blue Gartr 45zip (264) Claiming $180 USD - unconfirmed Source: Blue Gartr mercath (142) Claiming $769 USD - unconfirmed Source: Blue Gartr fenrirdeath6 (11) ???? - unconfirmed dave1980 (28) $80.55 USD Source: EGS.net Champ Qs (53) ???? - unconfirmed Here's what we want: Payment proof! It's so simple. If Monarch has paid his Middleman then he'd have no problem showing screenshots. Why has no one ever seen any? Even legit PayPal transaction IDs would suffice. If there was a scammer thread on http://www.egamingsupply.com/forum/buyer-seller-beware for non-payment, the EGS moderators would require payment proof or the accused member would be banned. So why isn't Monarch aka EGS CEO aka scammer banned? EGS members: How does EGS Middleman service stop 99.9% of scams if your payment is going directly to a scammer? Do you support scamming? No, then stop donating and paying for EGS services like Middleman and memberships. Danger: Also since Middlemen are not paid, some have resorted to stealing your accounts or in-game items to compensate for their services performed on EGS. Not All Middlemen will take this path, but why take the chance? Scammer's Links: http://www.egamingsupply.com/middlem...ice-order-page https://egamingsupply.plimus.com/jsp...ractId=1836266 Scammer's emails: paypal-payments@egamingsupply.com paypal@webmastered.net justice.mccay@gmail.com sale-dept@gamemonarch.com If there are any questions about what is going on, we will answer all here. No registration is required. http://virtualfaqs.com/forum/ask-questions-about-buying-selling-virtual-faqs-questions/ Here is a MSN conversation between Artemys and EGS CEO Monarch aka Justice McCay Part 1 http://virtualfaqs.com/forum/egs/1170-we-need-your-help-stop-egs-ceo-scamming.html#post3262 MSN Conversation between Monarch & Artemys Part 2 http://virtualfaqs.com/forum/egs/1170-we-need-your-help-stop-egs-ceo-scamming-2.html#post3295 Monarch Lie #1: Source: http://www.egamingsupply.com/forum/ Source: https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/in...o?siteId=31000 Search Offender ID: 0300234317 A link from Burlington County Jail showing Monarch was recently a guest at their fine establishment. Justice McCay aka EGS CEO aka Monarch brtev: Disclaimer Note: This is a public link. Virtual FAQs intent is not to harass Monarch personally. However we take lies from a scammer very seriously. This link is posted for your safety in trading. The following is a thread posted by Artemys that has been on EGS for at least 1 week with what is happening. Source: http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...y.com+ceo+scam How EGS CEO scams **Everyone Please Read** This Thread has been edited by Artemys, in-case Monarch bans me and deletes all my Posts, he'll have to work a little harder to conceal the information on these. Monarch is currently away and hasn't been on for some time, due to this he has missed payment for us middlemen. I had previously told Monarch that should he miss payment one more time I would step down. He's been out for 2 weeks now with no word. He hasn't paid some of the MMs, and he hasn't paid any of us for December. I checked the company Plimus account as I was going to refund some people their Middleman Transaction IDs and I got the message saying there was no funds available, meaning Monarch withdrew everything. To those waiting for their services, I apologize. I advise you file a chargeback. Heck I advise everyone who can to file a chargeback on anything they purchased from Monarch, since he owes people money and has stolen from us technically speaking. Don't let him have free cash. The Middleman Service is pretty much the only thing keeping EGS afloat. To those who have recently purchased Middleman Transactions, you may have noticed I refunded them and sent you a PM, similar to this including the following: "If you would still like me to carry out this middleman transaction I ask you send payment to my personal paypal address: *Edited out* Send it as "Payment: Other" and in the text field please put Virtual Transaction: EgamingSupply Middleman services rendered. Once you do so please PM me and I'll continue your service ASAP via your thread already made. I will be sending this to all current open MM transactions until Monarch returns and pays last month's dues. If you have any questions please PM me." All in all, Monarch owes me alone (He owes other members a lot also) $878.95 Usd + $200 for december. Here's my old Thread in the staff section regarding this: Quote: Originally Posted by Artemys http://www.egamingsupply.com/forum/i...s/viewpost.gif April's Totals Transaction IDs: 0V63741375209761N 39300641SU058072L 8E094253NK7405156 97837264HM849303 2GS42981CE211523S 5 total for April x $9.95 = 49.75 ---------------------------------------------------------------- March Totals: 63 Transactions x $9.95 = $626.85 ---------------------------------------------------------------- February Totals: 53 Transactions x $9.95 = $527.35 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Payments Received from Monarch: Date:Apr 21, 2010 Amount: $150.00 (Unique Transaction ID #2ET320388N1102500) Date: Mar 28, 2010 Amount: $100.00 (Unique Transaction ID #4D496582JJ448935G) Date: Mar 23, 2010 Amount: $75.00 (Unique Transaction ID #3N827851TM053950W) [This one was for January, was paid in full that month, this one is not included in the above totals, it's here for reference to show this payment I received was for January and not another month] Date: Feb 5, 2010 Amount: $139.90 (Unique Transaction ID #62S50871XM451450X) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Total Owed after Adding February + March + April AND Subtracting the 3Payments Received: $878.95 Usd Posting this, will reply with Transaction IDs for each respective Month. The months not mentioned he paid for, some were a bit late but he paid. As you've all noticed Monarch has gotten more and more ridiculous with every post he makes. He's VERY disrespectful to the staff and members. He is childish and annoys the staff via Messenger with inappropriate posts and spam (Staff be kind to verify this for me). There's also been recent Staff applications for both Moderator and Middleman that were never replied to. Monarch had asked me to take charge and determine who would meet the requirements. Truth be told, when I gave my opinions and comments he would completely ignore what I say and end up getting someone else who didn't apply and was new to the forums (no offense to you guys, but please see this from my perspective. Luckily you all are great people). As for middleman applicants, I'm glad he didn't get anyone as it would been one more angry person who didn't get paid. I'm more than confident I'll be removed for this. I expect to be. More importantly I urge everyone who reads this to not be tempted to Middleman for him. Everything everyone has ever said about Monarch being a Scammer and a Liar, From Infamous Flame(Former Admin, was removed for site sabotage) to Derfy(Same as Infmaous Flame) to Bassline(Unpaid Middleman, was removed for holding accounts ransom for not getting paid), . It's all true. Please note, here I'm referring only to personal comments they made towards Monarch as a person. In the case of Infamous Flame, Derfy and Bassline; I did not approve of the actions they choose to take, nor do I encourage nor entertain them. I'm merely pointing out the fact that evern that far back, his own staff spoke out against him in this manner of not Paying his Middleman or of being a rude CEO and insulting staff and members. More recently, Astralfow(Former MM,Removed for publicly posting against Monarch for not getting Paid) was removed for the reasons I stated. He wasn't in the same league as the for-mentioned trio but he was also an unpaid Middleman, like myself who was removed for illuminating the mass. However unlike the actions some of the before mentioned took, I wont do such a thing. I'll never resort to "stealing accounts" or anything like that. I'll continue to offer Middleman services but not through EGS. If anyone would like, please don't purchase it, but rather PM me, Artemys. Quoting what someone told me, "Ironically, Monarch is this site's biggest scammer" From refunds to his forced ASP to Middleman payments. But it doesn't stop there, read this: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1889473 He scammed someone for $200 there. I'm not even going to start about what he does with the money, use your imagination, you're probably right. I was patient with Monarch for a long time. I offered my help to him to make EGS better many times, only to be shot down or insulted. I'm sure many of you have noticed a decline in staff activity also, especially our higher tier Staff. In reality they're just like our Jr.Mods, they don't have the ability to actually help, as Monarch gives no permissions. Here's a PM I got from monarch: Quote: Originally Posted by Monarch Hey, I really need your dedication as immediately as possible and throughout this month of December. I really need you to devote a lot of time and effort into working hard this month and attracting sales as well as moderating forums. We need to utilize this month so that we can start a new beginning with EGS. In all seriousness, your current work performance just isn't cutting it. Please, I really need your dedication. We need to promote our Middleman Service more frequently specifically in ALL WTB, WTS, and WTT threads. And we also need to desperately start moderating both users and posts/forums a lot more because users are getting away with murder; I see a lot of spam, a lot of links, and instant messenger and email addresses being posted and that's not allowed. We're losing business. If you can really dedicate yourself this month and work your a$$ off and do as I requested, every staff member will be equally compensated as a Christmas present by the end of this month. We all desperately need to work together and much harder to moderate users/forums and also promote services, so that we can generate a lot more revenue than what we have currently made this month - a pity $300 - and stash enough to make major changes as well as enough to equally share upon each other. Major changes are in the making. I am counting on you to help us all progress to the next level. And I promise you that if you put in the time, effort, and work, that you will be fairly compensated for it. This month is the start to an entire new site and business model. I need your dedication during the rest of December (obviously excluding Christmas Eve, Christmas, & the day after) so that we can clean up our forums, weave out our bad/rule-breaking users, and generate massive amounts of sales & revenue. Make this month be our best month. Please, dedicate yourself and start working hard now. I am hoping to see all the staff here really put in 200% throughout the month, and I am hoping that I will have the excitement to hold a staff meeting via Ventrillo at the month to share our success, our total revenue, and announce the amount of money that will be equally shared amongst all of EGS staff members. I am putting my trust in you to work together and to work with me hard throughout the rest of December. See you on EGS. - Monarch He wanted me to Moderate and Middleman, as well as answer Support Tickets, so on and so on. He has the nerve to say my current work isn't cutting it, I just laughed back when I read that. He has reaped what he has sown. If I'm banned for this, which I'm expecting, I'll see you guys around. I have the same name in many forums so feel free to contact me. Some of you I have on MSN or AIM.
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| Artemys | Here is a MSN conversation between Artemys and EGS CEO Monarch aka Justice McCay Part 1 Note: The following MSN conversation has been edited to EGS username: Artemys for ease of following the conversation. Justice McCay says You fucked up Now why would you fuck me over? It's not even pay day yet Of all people, I didn't expect you to do what you did If you see that I didn't log in from 12-21-2010 Up until about yesterday Why would you conclude that you werne't getting paid? Artemys says payday = 30, your words Justice McCay says So something that you oh-so wanted to do for a long time Finally came out of you Your true intentions finally came out So I was in the hospital Every day thinking about you and EGS and all the people that needs to be paid Only to return to this See, Plimus hasn't even sent out hte payment yet. If you were paid by Plimus by me on the 30th you still, as of today, wouldn't have been paid, and you know that. And you also know that should you not be paid by Plimus before the end of the month that you'd be paid by PayPal directly, as it has happened in the past, when Plimus sent the gross payment of our earnings. So what am I to do with you now? Clearly too, we remained to have a Christmas theme up, so you very well knew that something was wrong.. I need to know where our business went, where you have stolen January's income where it was redirected to... Of all staff to do something like this, I am most surprised and disappointed it was you.. Artemys says I have no control on withdrawing Plimus you know that Justice McCay says I would have never expected you to do anything like that, especially to me. Artemys says Maybeif you paid the 1k you owed Justice McCay says You know better of me than to do what you did..and what you're still doing. Every month, you never said I owed you anything. So now you come up with a lie of 1k You're pulling things out of nowhere all of a sudden to justify yourself and you know it's wrong. Of everyone..to do this.. What did you do Marce? And why? Artemys says What did I do, I posted the truth, why you failed to pay 800 for the months back then and the 200 due on December, I considered why you may be absent and took into account your past "explanations" and acted that's why Justice McCay says No Marce..what di dyou do Artemys says with? Plimus? I refunded everyone who purchased the Middleman Service since it was down Justice McCay says You even allowed Saphiera back and brtev and bumped them? Where did you direct our sales to? Just be honest with me about everything. I can't even believe you created those threads calling me a scmamer I can't even believe you did all the damage you did Of all people.. Artemyssays I could've done more, but I choose not to, my beef was with you not everyone Justice McCay says Another delay for the plans I wanted so bad with all my heart. Another delay to expand a business that made you money for minutes of work. It was still extra money for you. Your beef was with someone who never did you wrong. You were someone who I talked to regularly. You really choose to try to defend yourself with trying to say you honestly thought I would steal your money. When you know dam well that doesn't make sense that I would let you post all that and turn a business that makes money monthly and let you keep power and shit so that we made no money monthly So you really try to bullshit such an excuse that makes no sense, that I would pocket your money and just choose not to let the business make any more money thereafter. So why would I pocket your money when we make money every month? I would pocket a mere couple of hundred and just let the business die? A business that makes money monthly? You know damn well you damaged everyone so severely. You must have had such cold intentions for a while.. And you let people like brtev come back? I can't even believe hwere you were. Merry Christmas to me and everyone on EGS that helped build it This is my Christmas present. You really ruined what we all made, including you. Why don't you tell me everything that you damaged and where the money is from january that we made Where you directed it to What site I can see you sold yourself out to brtev It's obvious and I can'te even believe it I'm a smalltown 20 year old with no money in the bank. Justice McCay just sent you a nudge. Justice McCay says I kept EGS alive with virtually no profit. I divided income out to those who helped build and keep EGS afloat, including you. Those who worked on EGS and earned there way within, were all justly paid what they were earned, and that includes you. For the past 6 months, everyone was paid on time and I was on everyday. For you to do what you did, and you knew something was wrong if I didn't log in like that, just of all people to turn, I still am in so much shock that it was you. Why don't you just come clean and be honest with me about everything? Justice McCay just sent you a nudge. Justice McCay just sent you a nudge. Justice McCay just sent you a nudge. Justice McCay just sent you a nudge. Justice McCay says Marce why don't you answer me? I have always been so honest with you. This really breaks me because I have nothing. EGS is all I have. And I shared it with all of those that deserved it, including you.. Artemys says Ask away in a calm manner, and I'll answer one question at a time. No arguments, just Q & A Justice McCay says I hav ebeen calm the whole time Artemys says Ask away Justice McCay says Ask what..I built a business and included people. I didn't turn to greed but other people did I just don't understand why you would do something like this to me. Justice McCay just sent you a nudge. Justice McCay says Where is the money we made for January? Artemyssays I refunded everyone via Plimus you should eb able to see be* Justice McCay says Where have you been directing our customers? brtev note: Customers is defined here as members. Artemys says Virtual Faqs I honored all MMs that were paid for up to January 12th, even did some free since I couldn't refun them all So I didn't taint your MM service brtev note: I did not designate Artemys to perform Middleman services here and only let him know this was an option. You can tell in that time there were no Middleman transactions here, but they were still on EGS. That's fine because the whole point is I want people to do their transactions wherever they are comfortable. Justice McCay says I can't believe you would do that And move to him like you really honestly broke my heart more than you brtev note: Once again, I did not designate Artemys to perform Middleman services here and only let him know this was an option. could even ever imagine I had a christmas bonus ready for you How could you do this to someone who has nothing, who has always been there to talk to you, and to bless and pray for your baby boy? And to ask how he was doing? And to consider you as an honest and true friend.. That has never done you wrong. I've talked to you on the phone I've talked to you on MSN We were always in contact you evendirected my business customers to another site why would you do that to me, to people that work on egs |
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| Artemys | I would like to point out in the MSN convo he says he was in the hospital, yet in the PM he sent out he said he was locked up (In Jail) | 01-16-2011 | |
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| derfy | Also he promised me a bonus shortly after I was banned. So, yeah. | 01-16-2011 | |
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| Just_Me | Yeah, he was still high when he sent the first PM. Guess he was in the hospital because he was saving a kitten from a burning building. | 01-16-2011 | |
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| Just_Me | BTW. Shame on you Artemys for turning against poor ol' Monarch to steal our money during his Christmas vacation. lol | 01-16-2011 | |
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| Kasakari | Now he has EGS all locked up. I'm sorry but after seeing all this shit unfold over the last year, i can't find any truth to what Monarch says anymore. | 01-16-2011 | |
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| neoex | Quote:
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01-16-2011 | |
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| brtev | You should have asked for it when he asked for your help on PC Web Talk forum. | 01-16-2011 | |
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| brtev | Good stuff! Adding it to the article. Also nobody wants to read my article, so I better start adding pictures. |
01-16-2011 | |
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| neoex | PMd brtev | 01-16-2011 | |
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| Artemys | New MSN convo, he insists lol. Justice McCay just sent you a nudge. Artemys says yes? Justice McCay says You have me so upset I am crying, Marce I thought you were a good guy Artemys says How do you think I felt having a kid on the way back in June and you still owed me $800 that you kept promising you'd pay You can't hide it Justice, everyone knows the truth. As I've said you have reaped what you have sown. My actions are a result of your actions. You choose to be the way you are, I stood by as long as I could endure, and I daresay I really endured it. I stood by and kept EGS running by myself We both know it didn't hold up on Ads nor memberships, it was the MM service which I performed incredibly, and established an incredible reputation Not once was I ever accused of scamming via the service nor did I. In light of non-payment I still stayed faithful and true to the service, untainted unlike a certain last MM Justice McCay says I paid you every month on time. Artemyssays Correction July-Nov you did Justice McCay says You never spoke of anything being owed to you up until now. Artemys says I did It was all in MM section Justice McCay says December too Artemys says EVERY staff member saw it Justice McCay says You stole money in December Because December's earnings wouldn't be paid until January, which would have been tomorrow or Teusday Artemys says I didn't I tried refunding someone who canceled the MM service and it said there was no funds that was 2weeks into your absence then someone else canceled and I couldn't refund them either I then asked Champ Qs if he got notice from plimus from a pending payment and he said not I never got one either, so truth be told it looled like you took it out for yourself If for one second you think I enjoyed what I did, you're wrong, it was a hard choice to make (Augmenting this, the following is not a part of the conversation but I'll explain why I said it was a hard decision: I had talked to brtev about my concerns and repercussions my actions would have specifically towards members who used EGS everyday to make sales and purchases and how it would affect them) . But ultimately I decided I didn't want to go on without getting paid having a scammer like you reaping the profits. Even Dave 1980 wasn't paid, and this was for November, heck even Fenrirdeath wasn't paid for his last month It was all there in the Mm section from your posts and your replies. Justice McCay says Yes they were all paid I have proof Artemys says If you paid them, I'm glad, but that still doesn't answer for everything else before that. I clearly outlined everything you owed and included reference #s so you can see. Justice McCay says You went above & beyond damage. Even your posts you insisted on editing my posts to put a false message out. You never spoke of anything owed to you month after month of working & being paid. Artemys says You can call it false, but everyone knows the truth Pause for a second and let me finish Every month on MSN you asked me how much did you owe me Justice McCay says Everyone doesn't know anything. Everyone has "seen" a misconception, a lie.. Artemys says I would promptly direct you to my thread in the MM section A misconception and "loe" that every staff member confirmed? lie* even past staff members even your business partners even your host Justice McCay says No staff member can confirm any debt, let alone payments, since no staff member has ever had access to payments or payment histories. This is the first time you've ever discussed anything regarding me owing you money, and you're only trying to claim I owe you money because of how much you've damaged EGS and how much you've even made me lose. I've never done anything wrong to you. Ever. There's even a thread somehwere in which you verify all debt was paid and cleared for you, because there was at one point in time earlier in the year 2010 where you were owed for a month or two of your work earnings. But you were paid, paid late, but you were paid. Justice McCay just sent you a nudge. Artemys says I will gladly allow someone to access my paypal, I'll even forward the invoices to show no payments from you were received except for the 3 which I deducted from the total total* Justice McCay says You waited for an opportunity in where I was in distress and unable to access EGS for you to sabatoge and ruin my site & business. Artemys says You owe me for January/February/March/April you paid for January, which I then edited and stated you did you then paid part of February Justice McCay says for the past 6 months, the time-frame in which we moved over to Plimus, you never ever spoke of any money owed to you. Artemys says then you never paid again until June, when my kid was coming Justice McCay says Marce Artemys says It's all in the Mm section if you don't delete it But you can ask Aleksey and all staff members, they all saw it And that's where he stopped talking to me. |
01-16-2011 | |
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| Yurihyuga | well I can picture the ban wave when its re-opened for the people badmouthing him, probably me included since I posted that stuff about him not paying the powerlevelling company. O.o who won the how low can you go contest . |
01-17-2011 | |
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| kuff | "Please check back on Monday, January 16th, 2011." Don't you mean 17th? ![]() |
01-17-2011 | |
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| Nukka | I stopped using EGS so long ago lol Just goes to show you how someone can try and reap benefit off of others, Monarch always got under my skin lol. | 01-17-2011 | |
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| Saphiera | Quote:
Its a shame too, some people still feed into what he says if it benefits them. Too bad it took you a year to figure that one out lol, its ok tho you got there a lot quicker than some other people I know. Oh and Artemy's how is your baby? and whats up you still playing FFXIV? Haven t seen you on lately. |
01-17-2011 | |
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