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Old 02-22-2012, 11:43 PM
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Exclamation Kazed | Clausen | Claus Skojedt - scammer!

To avoid reposting I will just put a link here (if Brtev dont mind)
Kazed - scammer! (Clausen, Claus Skjo****)

and the outcome?

Here is a copy of PayPal statement (which I have appealed ofcourse)

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Dear ............................,

We completed our investigation for the following transaction:

Case ID: PP-001-658-393-825
Transaction Date: Feb 6, 2012
Transaction Amount: -$220.00 USD
Seller's Email: doesntconcernyou@gmail.com
Seller's Name: claus skjoedt


Unfortunately, we are denying your claim because your purchase was for a
virtual, digital, or intangible item, which is not covered under PayPal
Purchase Protection. We only cover claims involving physical items that
can be shipped and tracked.

We encourage you to work directly with your seller to resolve the problem.
You'll find their contact information on the Transaction Details page.


Yours sincerely,
PayPal
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Maybe You can give me an advice Brtev? Or You can help me push this one to prosecution of somehow.


Thanks for any help or advice...

And beware for the dude ofc!

My regards,

Shadow
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:28 AM
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Next time ask for advice before you appeal. You've just received PayPal's standard virtual goods response. So it will be difficult to do anything about it now.

How did you pay credit card or bank funds?
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Old 02-23-2012, 06:34 AM
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I payed with PayPal balance...

What should I have said in the appeal?


And here is a small update (email that I recieved from the scammer)
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Hello,

You know you're a dumb fuck if you think you can threaten me or my relatives.

Regards.

Claus

Den 23-02-2012 01:33, Sergej Goncarov skrev:
> Hello Claus,
>
> I am giving You a last deadline to start the communication before I proceed with prosecuting You.
>
> I have waited for PayPal to make a conclusion on the claim and with the result on my hands I am fully capable to proceed with the case to police and ISA for theft.
>
> I am giving You a last deadline till February 24, 16.00 GMT untill I go on with pressing charges against You.
>
> My regards,
>
> Sergey Goncharov.
>
> P.S: I ask you kindly to be reasonable to avoid big problems that You will bring upon You and Your relatives, because that won't be worth that 220$ which You think You scammed me for.
>
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Which shows us how ignorant he is again.
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:43 AM
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Never ever pay with PayPal balance or keep any money in your PayPal account unless you know exactly what you're doing. Now you don't have any other play here. PayPal pretty much ruled against you. First mistake is mentioning virtual goods. You need to convince them that's not what they're dealing with. Also always pay by credit card if you're not sure.

Possibly one last resort, how long has your balance been in your PayPal account? And what was the source?
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Old 02-23-2012, 08:23 AM
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While doing business on RMT markets I pretty much hold some balance on regular basis.
That means that I have can have like 1k along the month. And I withdraw only when I need it.
The source is from trading / selling .... And my balance is often very high.
Aswell I do have a Premier Status there.
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Old 02-23-2012, 09:28 AM
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Another problem with keeping your balance high is PayPal can freeze you if they're suspicious about any activity and that includes when you're under investigation. If you had credit card protection from paying, you'd still have another way out.

There's really no point unless you have to make bank payments or Mass Pay.

Also you have 19 feedback. This guy has 0. You shouldn't be taking chances like that by paying first. You may have gotten your way the majority of times on PayPal, but as you can see PayPal won't always go your way.
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:20 PM
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Ok thanks for reply.
I appreciate Your opinion.

P.S: it's 35 on MMOBAY/ EPIC, more on EGS and around 7 on PA.

Cheers,
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:29 PM
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Sure, but I only go by unique feedback. If you verify your EpicNPC name, you can get a higher level here.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:57 PM
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Send me a tell if You need me to PM You on EGS/EPIC/PA...

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